Talion/Celebrimbor Disappointment Thread

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    WB Gamer

    I want to show sympathy for those people that your requests have not made the cut for the final July 17th update. It is indeed a amazing thing to have especially the blue wraith cause it just makes things look more alive. Many people want the blue wraith and honestly I do not understand why Monolith did not positively respond to this.

     

     

    Hope you guys feel better

    take care. :)

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    WB Gamer

    Jared said in the latest stream that Celebrimbor skin will have his own Celebrimbor wraith

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    Yes but it is not the way people requested it. They want Celebrimbor wraith and talion back together at the endgame as an option and Monolith seemed to have denied the high demand of it.

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    That’s the impression I got as well. In wraith form, it will look like a green Celebrimbor. This also seems to confirm that elven rage will not be making a comeback either, which I find to be highly disappointing. It was such a requested feature that I was almost certain they would give us the option to switch between ringwraith and elven rage ultimates. Guess not now.
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    To those that did and did not watch the latest stream we received a lot of information regarding new additions to things. Something to note however is that the Celebrimbor skin will not be like acts 1 and 2.
    What I am talking about is the big Blue Celebrimbor with his always angry voice and amazing Elven Rage ability and animations. We are getting a Young Celebrimbor skin with its wraith being Old Celebrimbor (why not Young Celebrimbor wraith?). BUT he is not blue he is green. Also when they were in the skill menu you could clearly see Talions Ringwraith ability there so it's also good to assume that this skin will not have Celebrimbor's voice but be like Eltariel were it still has Talions voice.
    Now yes there is the other skin they didn't show off; the one with the Ring as the icon. But me personally am assuming it's going to be Fair Form Sauron.
    All in all it is great that we are getting new skins of things we wanted but it's not going to be Celebrimbor proper. So if you want to stick with proper Blue Bright Lord then you just have to stay in act 2 forever and never beat the game.
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    Yeah, it kinda bothered me how his wraith was all wrinkly instead of young-looking.
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    WB Gamer

    This is ticking me off....PUT THE DARN BLUE WRAITH AS AN OPTION MONOLITH WE DO NOT NEED YOUR ZERO REQUESTED SAURON"S FAIR FORM SKIN YOU HEAR ME?

     

    I noticed how you guys clearly went your own way and hardly accepted the demand from us. For example we wanted Nazgul skins and yet you give masks, the celebrimbor skin was barely even requested I seriously do not understand. From what it looks like you guys are trying to put little to no effort into adding things. IF YOU FRICKING CARED ENOUGH, YOU WOULD HONESTLY WORK YOUR BUTT"S OFF TO ADD CELEBRIMBOR AND TALION BACK INCLUDING  NAZGUL SKINS. -_-

     

     

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    Yes, how hard can it be to activate/add the same Celebrimbor wraith  after the main story is complete!'

    I mean, it is already in the game!

    How hard is to activate it again!?

     

     

     

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    The excuse given so far in a repetitive and monotone voice is: “POST GAME STATE” “POST GAME STATE” “POST GAME STATE” . Let's put it this way: If I showed somebody the box art of the game, then showed them the actual game, they'd probably be confused lol. At the end of the day you guys are the devs so you have a right to decide what to add, but it's a completely different thing to hint that something is going to happen and then just not do it, you know?

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    Not that surprised though to be honest.

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    It sounds like myself and everyone complaining about this is just ungrateful and whining, but that just isn't true. I'm deeply grateful to the Monolith team for supporting the game the way they have, but what I won't do is pretend like I'm not deeply upset that one of the most requested and "simple" features has just been brushed aside as if nobody has been asking for it. I mean really? A shadows of the past Celebrimbor skin with a green wraith? Cmon Monolith, what are you doing lol. 

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    Remember months and months ago when we were asking for this, and the consensus was that it would be added and we would just have to wait patiently for all the other patches and DLC? Well, we've waited VERY patiently and look what we got folks: a celebrimbor skin with a green wraith LMAO. I mean forget the fact that it's so far away from what we asked for, because the skin itself doesn't even make any sense. I think we're allowed to make assumptions about it because they haven't actually given a good reason as to why. Hopefully this will be addressed next stream. 

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    Where was this promised, I can't remember it ever been said on the streams or here. Do you have a link to where it was said or a screenshot of it by any chance or at least a location where I can go and see it.

     

    I've been keeping a very close eye on what has an hasn't been said officially and I have never seen that or heard anyone talking about it before.

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    Lol yeah we waited very patiently and what you know, Monolith decided to lay their heads back and relax making an amazing GREEN WRAITH CELEBRIMBOR AND CELEBRIMBOR SKIN THAT IS WEARING THE ONE RING THAT"S NOT ISULDERS. WHAT THE FRICK MONO LITH!

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    Stranger looks like you are trying to defend Monolith's side which is okay to me but just do not use that sarcasm again. You haven't been keeping a good eye and if you did I promise you would literally paraphrase everything you said.

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    He's made a claim that I am unfamiliar with and since I've been modding this place for over a year now I've tried my best to keep up with who has said what where and I have not seen any official comment on that being promised, now it may have happened and if if has I would like to see where it was said and when so I can see what else was, it helps me in knowing what claims are false and not, that is part of what I do here.

     

    So please don't start coming at me over this it's not my job to defend anyone, if I was I would simply take down every negative comment about the game, which I don't, it's not sarcasm it's due diligence because I went and looked for this comment everywhere I could think and couldn't find it, not saying it didn't happen I just would like to know where and when, which I think is a fair request.

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    it's been in the threads mentioned in the past and I strongly believe why they stopped posting about it is cause their just trying to be patient like the rest of us. I can almost gurantee you that this is topic is going to expand over many threads. Watch it grow stranger.

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    I think that everyone's "disappointment" over the green Celebrimbor wraith is getting a little out of hand...
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    As long as it is within the forum rules you can post what you want but posting that someone official from Monolith has said something and gone against it without saying where and when then that would not be, I'm giving the OP the benefit of the doubt and asking because he has seen something I haven't, it happens there is a whole 6 months and more of stuff since the game has released and I'm only one mod doing this in my spare time, so understand I have to ask.

     

    Post away on this subject, I may even create a megathread for you if it proves popular enough to warrant one.

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    WB Gamer
    To be honest , I'm also disappointed with not having a option to change back to talion/celebrimbor. I really think that this is just laziness. So sad.
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    What actually annoys me is that when you think about it, act 3 has already proven that you are able to switch between Dark Talion and Talion & Celebrimbor.
    Think about it, you start the act with Talion & Celebrimbor with Elven Rage.
    Then you become Dark Talion with Ringwraith.
    Then we you're Celebrimbor again fighting Sauron; if you look in the skill menu you can see Elven Rage again! SO IT IS POSSIBLE!!
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    I've seen most if not all of Monolith's Livestreams and don't remember a Developer or Jarod speak (let alone promising) this trait returning to the game.    It's possible he or someone else working for Monlith did and I missed it, as the 'skins' issue is of little to no importance to me in the game.      But as Stranger has suggested, if you can identify the Livestream and the time it was spoken about post it here.    Maybe it was just mentioned by a fan (or someone on the livestream?) and missinterpreted, then took on a life of its own?   And who knows, maybe it is included in the upcoming release - has it been mentioned officially it's not?     

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    I think it’s quite fair to say the requests for anything nazgul related and bringing back the talion/CB were about the same. At the end of the day though, only one of those requests were met and it wasn’t even quite a skin like everyone was asking for, so that’s odd, but then the other side of things gets shafted. They decided to buckle down on anything nazgul and made sure for those of us who want to use elven rage, hear celebrimbor again, and have blue effects, that we need to stay in act 2 and not get to play with these new features. Of course this would all be fine if they just had second save slot in the first place when the game launched. It’s nice to finally have the celebrimbor skin though I can’t see any reason as to why it took this long, since he for one was playable since day 1 and all but eltariel and baranor got added with their dlcs and it took probably a solid day or two to actually get this one as a skin. Still don’t know why his wraith couldn’t be blue, understand the elven rage thing a bit more I don’t know how they’d load that in with a skin but if he doesn’t have his voice I’ll be baffled since he’s basically just straight out of the shadow of the past missions where he was himself with all his functions. Honestly, I will enjoy the new content and it will keep me playing for awhile, but it feels like a huge blow to us who like celebrimbor, and personally being two characters was the coolest thing to me and the fact that almost all dialogue is gone from the game after act 3 is always saddening. I just wanted to be the bright lord without having to reset the world again, I feel lik after spending this much time with the game being out we’ve earned the right to unlock that somehow or something, but no all nazgul requests were more important, we didn’t JUST want the celebrimbor skin...
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    WB Gamer

    I'm with you exactly on this one mate, but what can we do? I got tired of arguing and posting angry things against Monolith's decisions.

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    It's major issue though if you think about it I myself have 0 desire to start a new game and delete all my hard work just to experience new narative elements and talion/celebrimbor being together? this is upsetting but like I said it is what it is.

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    I can't believe how upset people are getting over this. They could've dropped DoM and just stopped supporting the game entirely. That's what most devs do.

    Since text cannot convey tone this is gonna sound a bit mean and confrontational, but it makes people sound spoiled and entitled when they complain that the free bonus stuff that the dev is giving us isn't the free stuff they wanted. You can't always get what you want. I wish they would give us Talion and Celebrimbor with (and without) Elven Rage back too, but I'm not gonna create thread after thread on the official forums and all over the rest of the internet about it.
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    WB Gamer

    the demand is real lol, like I mentioned before we can't really do anything about it. I guess Monolith wants to cross their very own bridge.

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    WB Gamer
    You guys obviously know nothing about programming. You have no clue whether or not it would be easy. Don't say you know for a "fact" that it's just a "toggle." Anyone remember the backwards flying dragons in Skyrim? That update had NOTHING to do with the coding of the dragons. They were bug fixing other things and the new bug showed up. This is what Monolith is most likely trying to avoid.
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    You are right. Most of us probably don't have a clue about programming. But as consumers of a product we ARE allowed to critique the product. In this case it's about not getting Celebrimbor proper. Do I acknowledge that they may run into issues trying to get proper Blue Boi working? Of course I do. But that doesn't mean we can't encourage them to try and make it work!
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    I'm thought I saw it promised on a reddit q&a, but unfortunately I can’t find the link now so I can’t prove it. Maybe one of you guys can find it? If you read the topic of the post, it said “disappointment thread” not “trash the complaint thread.” I haven’t violated any community rules, I simply expressed what I truly think and what many others think(see above and check other threads). It’s my opinion, nothing more. Btw, Stranger has done a fantastic job, so I don’t know who disputed that. . .

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