Archer Class Captains

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    An update on this issue - when I reported this to Monolith (via a ticket), they did respond at the time that it is a known 'bug'.   Since then it remains the only 'archer'-class Captain I have (and remains in Garrisson after upgrading to Legendary and maxing at 80) or run into.  However in a recent Vendetta (Minas Morgul), I ran into another similar non-Class Captain, but instead of being 'Archer', he was a 'Savage'.   He was a Dark Tribe Captain (Dark Savage), and his icon once in Garrisson was a 'Savage' axe head (e.g. unique from any other Class).    The Archer 'Class' Captain had two crossing Arrows, as described in an earlier posting in this thread.   

     

    So I would suspect there's a 'Defender', 'Hunter', 'Warrior' and perhaps even an 'Olog' 'Class' Captain as well.    Collect them all!   lol

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    I have a Pretender (Tower wanna be). He is a Defender with no advanced class.
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     I have seen this a few times. What you normally need to do is level them up by a few matches and he should gain an advanced class although I have had a few who refused to gain an advanced class which sucked :( 

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    Thanks for the info - but both of mine are lvl 80 Legendaries now (each levelling up from 57 and 31 respetively) and both remain as-is, 'Archer' and 'Savage' Class accordingly.    Both remain in Garrisson. 

     

    Good one Dwayden,  yes they do exhibit the 'Defender' Shield as the icon, so perhaps they have that 'Class' covered.  

     

     

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    If this is a bug, this is a really cool bug, imo. You have yourself a one-of-a-kind follower. I've never seen an Archer. Only Marksman and Assassin.
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    I bought the PS 4 version of this game for my daughter on the weekend, the basic version released in October 2017.  She began playing it without first connecting to the internet and d/l the patches, so what she played was the original unpatched version.  Once in Minas Ithal, we targetted some Intel Orcs to display the attributes of 2 random Captains.  The first one displayed was a 'Dark Hunter', the 2nd a 'Terror Warrior' Captain.  They had no Class associated to them (e.g. Assassin or Trickster, etc).  A third one was Marauder Archer'.  So these types of non-Class Captains existed in the original version upon release, and it was likely one of the first set of releasd patches for this game that 'fixed' this and prevented them from existing or being spawned anew.    So those you find in the game are likely those who came into being before that patch was applied to the game.  They may still be spawning in some cicrumstances even with the game fully patched (up to current), I do not know but I have not run into any in my basic game since the Archer back in Feb/March.    I have run into at least 1 in Vendettas (other player's worlds), and this can be explained as potentially having existed in that players world since Feb (or ealier) 2018.   

    As the Garrisson is not available when you start the game anew for the first time, the Hunter and Warrior's 'Class' Captain's icon in the Garrisson is unknown.  

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    Captains with no advanced class like that always spawn in Minas Ithil.
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    I got this guy a couple weeks ago.

     

    https://www.xboxclips.com/beowulf221/screenshots/97200029-65ca-4143-8f2e-43de6942a6c0

     

    I got this one a few days earlier. 

     

    https://www.xboxclips.com/beowulf221/screenshots/a53a2691-b4ec-4861-a0c2-0ff90ff1c443

     

    I realize it's not the same thing, but have you ever seen an Olog Slayer before?  I didn't think they were supposed to be possible.  The fact that I couldn't give him the Champion epic trait makes me think it's not supposed to be possible.  I've also encountered a few individuals with traits from the wrong class, like a beastmaster with Epic Smoke Bomb and a fortress full of non-beastmasters with caragor packs.

     

     

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    That is very cool, have never encountered or seen an Olog Slayer, never thought they could exist either (much like the concept of an Olog Marksman or Assassin, etc).     What's the source of this guy - Region, Fight Pit, Vendetta, etc?  Where you on the receiving end of his 'Triple Strike' and have you shamed him and recruited him yet?     Would be interesting to see if you can apply the Slayer Counter to him.    

     

    How or where did you source your Terror Hunter?  The backdrop looks like MMorgul, but did he come from Vendetta or was spawned in or Fight Pit, etc?   

     

    I don't think I've encountered a BM with Epic smoke bombs, but some traits associated to certain Classes I have seen on other types.  The most common I've encountered are Mines and/or Bombs on non-Destroyers.  Often, but not always, this is associated to their names - such as 'Plague Bringer' or similar 'disfigured' type Captains.   Also Decoys on non-Assassins (the guys are named 'the Prankster'), 6+ Enragements on non-Berzerkers, 'No Chance' on non-Assassins, etc.   

     

    Some really odd ones may be those imported from SoM others could be bugs, who knows.   

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    The Olog came from Lithlad.  I did a 100 hit combo trying to draw a Slayer and he's what showed up.  I have shamed and recruited him but sadly, Slayer Counter is a no-go.  I should have tried giving it to him as an Epic to see if it worked, but I was so giddy at the prospect of an Olog with Slayer Counter I wasn't thinking clearly.  I immediately made him Legendary and tried giving him Slayer Counter.  One of his Epics disappeared.  Tried again, and the other one disappeared.  I was able to put one back, but unfortunately, that one is now all he has.  As for Triple Strike, I fought him twice and he never used it.  I don't think he can.  Fast Learner works, though.  He's the only Olog I've ever seen the Adapted graphic from.  So, he could have been a lot better than he turned out, but a Thick-skinned, Fast Learner Olog is still pretty cool.

     

    I wasn't really sure where I got the Hunter until I looked at the picture again.  Level 56.  That means he came from the Minas Morgul Champion Fight Pit.  I have him in my Garrison, but he's level 80 now.  Still just a Hunter. If I ever deploy him, I'll have to see what happens if I give him a Champion Training Order.

     

    I just noticed that your Archer and my Hunter are both "The Endless."  Isn't that interesting?  I have 4 or 5 other Terror Followers with that title and they're all Tanks.  I've never seen a ranged Tank.  Maybe that's what happened.  Maybe when the RNG rolled their stats, it rolled basic classes and advanced classes that were incompatible, and settled the issue by just not assigning the advanced class.

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