Beastmaster Captain has No Chance trait.

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    WB Gamer
    No chance can be on literally any class, it’s just guaranteed on assassins, currently just found a berserker with no chance for the first time in this playthrough I’m on. I once had a whole fort in Cirith ungol with all no chance having orcs even one Olog I think and they were mostly beastmasters, they seem the most common secondaries to inherit no chance. You learn something new everyday, like now you know not to attack my fort because there’s an overlord with like 5 enrages epic rage and no chance in cirith ungol soon, only level 29 or something too so he’ll get a lot more immunities (hopefully).
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    Yeah, can be on any class.  Usually the title will indicate it... "Blackheart" or "the Cruel" are two titles I see often combined with the trait.  I have a slayer with it and just recruited a tank with the trait.  Both have the title "the Cruel," and both are terror tribe, the terror tribe thing could be coincidence though.  Would love to find a zerker with it, no luck yet though.  I picked up a beast master with it, was "natural" epic with great strength but man he got killed easily, so I let him get killed off on a nemesis mission.

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    Interesting, thanks for the feedback.  If this is just a rare or very rare ability then I likely have other non-Assassins with this trait but never took note of it before.    

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    Now that you mention it, I think my berserker dudes name was black heart before he got murdered and become the monster he is today, being one of “the maggots” now, he’ll annoy you and kill you now haha man I hope nothing happens to him.
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    My “unicorn” orcs are a dual wield zerker Necro and a zerker with no chance. Surprisingly the second is looking more impossible to find... I’m jealous.

    from my experience keep an eye out especially for “blackheart,” “the cruel” and “the merciless”. Not sure every orc with those titles has it, but every non-assassin orc I’ve seen with it has one of those titles.

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    I checked my Garrissonned Berzerkers and I have 2 Merciless (Defender/Hunter) and both have the No Chance trait.   I did not check any of my non-Berzerkers, and I did not find any 'the Cruel' or 'Blackheart'-named Berzerkers.    It is more then likely I have run into them (Berzerkers so-named), but they were killed one way or the other (either insufficiently traited so  were grinded/killed or were killed in battle).  

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    Just came across Tuka Black-Heart in the FP, Dark Slayer, and he had the No Chance trait.  He was insufficiently traited otherwise, so didn't bother with him.  

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    Too funny... I now have 4 zerker next is, and FINALLY got my savage zerker Necro, would have assumed hat was more rare than no chance. You have 2 no chance zerkers and I have yet to come across one other than in other players forts, and I’ve been specifically in the last 200+ hours of gameplay
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    Stupid auto correct.., 4 zerker necros, not next is
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    Of my Necros, I have at least 3 Berzerkers - Hunter, Olog and a skinny slave/Warrior type.    I've come across at least 3 Savage B Necros (all from Fight Pits). and 1 of them was sadly dispatched by one of my own Followers during my attempts to brand him.  The other 2 were those identified pre-FP but when the Fight started it was different opponents that showed (a known bug in the game), and not the Necros.   I hope to find a quality Defender B Necro at some point, the best imo of  the B's, it's just a matter of time.   All the Necros I have are good to poor in terms of traits, and all but a handful I wouldn't bother keeping them/branding them if they didn't have the Necro trait (very high standards to stay in my Army).   The worst I have is Terrified of Curse, the best is likely my Hunter B Necro   All my other Necros are a mix of different Advanced Classes and various Classes.  None of them I have deployed in the region - pulled them all back to avoid the random Captain replacement 'by design' issue which nerfed one of my best Necros.   

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    Vendetta mission had Az-Tarmo Black-Heart, Dark Berzerker (Olog) with No Chance.  When it rains it pours...

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    lmao  I think you're just trying to rub it in.  Nice!

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    lol - you'll find those you seek soon no doubt, one way (your world) or the other (recruit online via Siege/Vendettas).   I think we all will, for those willing to put the time in.  With this 'No Chance'  thing still fresh I'm sure seeing them more frequently will be the norm, now it's known (thanks!) what to look out.   It's a handy trait to have for sure on Berzerkers and other strong Followers, and may tip the balance on keeping what would otherwise be a 'fence sitter'.   

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    Found 'whatever the Cruel'  today in a FIght Pit, Hunter class Destroyer, and yup he had No Chance trait.   Lvl 41 Epic (Maggot FP) and his solo enragement  is that glicthed 'Enraged by Injury'.   Decided to give it a go and sent my lvl 25 motrally-everything deranged Tank gack to fall to him.  He obliged in 2 hits - but the Cruel spawned the Unbreakable trait post FP win.    Will play Death Threat tag with him to push over 60 to see if he loses that enragement.   

     

    I checked my entire Garrisson and those slotted in each region and have 5 'the Merciless' guys.  2 Berzerkers, 1 Destroyer and 2 BMasters (including the one that spawned this thread).   I have 1 Accrused Berzerker slotted (thick Warrior type) but no 'the Cruel' or the 'Black-Heart' Followers.   Will now hunt for a high quality, good enragement traited Mystic or Warmonger Savage Slayer with No Chance, pair them up with an Overlord and a Tank or B Olog Painless/Pain Seeker.

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    WB Gamer
    What do you mean glitched “enraged by injury” did they break that in the last update ?
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    The last 3 of 4 Captains who I've found with the 'Enraged by Injury' trait, all sourced from the Fight Pits and were victorious againts my gack, have lost this enragement at some point during their levelling up process.    This 'the Cruel' guy, the latest with the Enraged by Injury trait, who I've now levelled up to 65 via Death Threating, has NOT lost it (but he's also non-branded).  The last 3, all recruited post Fight Pit, have lost theirs before they reach lvl 60.   I've already reported this issue to Monolith.  Doesn't happen all the time (with recruited Followers), but it does occur.  The trait itself works great, it's my favorite Enragement - it's the fact it disapears during levelling up on some Captains that's the problem.   

     

    https://community.wbgames.com/t5/Support/Captain-Losing-Enragement-when-leveling-up/m-p/1832213#M9071

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    It's one of my favorite traits, especially on bodyguard berserkers.   I've found two with it  who didn't have some fatal flaw. That sucks seeing them lose it.  I've never seen it the way you describe, but I only recently started paying any attention to the fight pits again, since finding a couple gems from the pit in Nurnen. 

     

    Wish the other regions had fight pits for higher level orcs.

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    All my FP recruiting occurs in Minas Morgul, doing it any other region (eg Forted) is wayyy to risky in terms of setting off balance issues / Rebellions / Betrayals / etc.   With Lithlad soon to be available, and assuming they have FP like the other regions, its FP will be open for business too (until the Region is stablized regarding your Fort setup/slotted followers).   MM has their Maggot lvl at 36-41 (Common - Epic); Warriors 46-51 (C-E); and Champion 56-61-65 (C-E-Legendary).   If it's a branded guy who shows up as the Computer-generated opponent (glitch) he's always at lvl 60 regardless of what FP you're at.    The other regions are all at least 10 lvl's below that of MM, at least in my experience, for their respective FP.    Lithlad will likely mimic those of the other non-MM region in terms of lvls.   

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    Yeah I meant Minas Morgul, not nurnen lol   picked up one of my necros from that fight pit

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    I picked up another Necro up a few days back from them, Cursed Assassin (thick Warrior type).   Had to shame him at least 4 times before he got rid of his Iron Will (between lvl'ing up back to 60+ via DThreats each time).   BUt sadly he retreats 20% of the time during fights with enemy Captains (and me before he was branded), but is otherwise well traited.  He's not named 'who Flees' or 'the Coward/Spineless/the Weak/etc etc', not yet anyway.   So I may just keep him in MM for a bit and not waste a Move To Garrisson on him.   .   

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